“How can we encounter God in the midst of our unmet longings?” As we continue the Say More series on the art of conversation, Jesse and Lindsey open by exploring how body language fosters trust and connection. Then, Lindsey sits down with pastor and author Trevor Hudson, who shares his journey of spiritual discovery, resilience, and finding joy in unexpected places. Trevor reflects on how embracing our deepest desires and disappointments can open us to a more authentic relationship with God. He discusses the transformative power of the Ignatian exercises, offers wisdom on holding both joy and sorrow, and challenges listeners to “walk in the light” by letting go of duplicity and living with genuine authenticity. The conversation wraps up with practical guidance for anyone seeking to deepen their faith while navigating life’s complex realities.
Connect with Trevor: https://renovare.org/people/trevor-hudson/bio
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CREDITS
Hosts Jesse Eubanks and Lindsey Lewis
Producer Anna Tran
This episode was edited by Anna Tran and Kevin Morris
Music for this episode comes from Lee Rosevere and Murphy D.X.
