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Today, Jesse and Lindsey discuss the second of seven elements to having good conversations: setting the stage, how we can think ahead to anticipate approaching future conversations. Jesse talks with former police chief and founder of the LION Institute, Mike Alexander. They talk about trauma within the law enforcement community and how Mike’s journey of self-awareness has impacted his approach to developing structures within police organizations.

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Hosts Jesse Eubanks and Lindsey Lewis
Producer Anna Tran
This episode was edited by Anna Tran and Kevin Morris
Music for this episode comes from Lee Rosevere and Murphy D.X.