“How do we stay grounded and true to ourselves in high-stress environments?” In this episode of the Say More series, Jesse and Lindsey begin by discussing the value of preparing for difficult conversations, offering practical tips on setting the stage for open, constructive dialogue. Then, Jesse interviews Mike Alexander, a former police chief, ethics expert, and Enneagram teacher, who shares insights from his 40-year journey in law enforcement. Mike reveals how personal healing transformed his leadership, equipping him to face the ethical and emotional challenges of his career. His story shows how integrity, faith, and community support can help us confront our own brokenness and inspire meaningful change. The episode wraps up with actionable advice for those striving to lead with authenticity and build deeper connections with others.
Connect with Mike: https://www.thelion.institute/
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ADDITIONAL RESOURCES
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Info about workshops:
https://RelateBetter.com/workshops/
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CREDITS
Hosts Jesse Eubanks and Lindsey Lewis
Producer Anna Tran
This episode was edited by Anna Tran and Kevin Morris
Music for this episode comes from Lee Rosevere and Murphy D.X.
