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“How does our family of origin shape our relationships?” As part of the Say More series, Jesse and Lindsey begin with a discussion on the importance of self-awareness in building trust and understanding. Then, Lindsey sits down with marriage experts Steve and Lisa Call, co-founders of the Reconnect Institute, to explore how our family histories impact our closest relationships. Steve and Lisa share candid insights into healing family-of-origin wounds, the transformative power of vulnerability, and staying connected even when life gets messy. With wisdom from decades of marriage, they offer guidance on holding both joy and sorrow, seeing our partner as both beautiful and broken, and cultivating authentic intimacy. The episode closes with practical advice for those longing to build deeper, healthier relationships.

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CREDITS

Hosts Jesse Eubanks and Lindsey Lewis
Producer Anna Tran
This episode was edited by Anna Tran and Kevin Morris
Music for this episode comes from Lee Rosevere and Murphy D.X.