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In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey talk through the desire to have value and how this is expressed in the qualities of Enneagram Type 3. Psychologist, author and podcaster Dr. Alison Cook joins the show and shares how the desire to be valuable has shaped her life as well as her journey to tell the difference between value and success. Lindsey and Dr. Alison play Lie Detector, where they show off their story-telling skills true and otherwise.



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Hosts Jesse Eubanks and Lindsey Lewis
Producer Anna Tran
This episode was edited by Anna Tran and Kevin Morris
Music for this episode comes from Lee Rosevere and Murphy D.X.